WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



HairyHammer 7:26 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, had they not murdered poor little Jamie and we could have somehow watched a documentary about how these two kids were brought up and treated by those who were responsible for them, I guess we would by a vast majority be feeling very sorry for them.
Saying that there are I am certain many who have had the same or very similar experiences as those boys and not gone out to kill as children.
I feel very sorry for the mother of Jamie Bulger who rightly so is holding onto a lot of bitterness but it is eating her up, this film in my view is no different to the docs about Fred West or the many other evil bastards who destroy so many lives it had to be made. A child's surroundings do count as to what character they become why must that be held back ?. Mr's Bulger hates one would guess that a different angle has been shone upon her poor sons death and that there may be sympathy for the way the two boys who killed her boy were raised and the terrible conditions they were raised in, but in my view if we learn the reasons that precipitated the evils they did, the better it will be for everyone in society.

Westham67 7:21 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Nurse will do in future, I basing it on the law of averages not some high level noncing conspiracy

Mike Oxsaw 7:20 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
How many nonces does it take to bring down a government?

Nurse Ratched 7:19 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Sum

Debate works like this: you state that there are organised, padeophile rings/networks operating with the protection and therefore consent of police/judiciary.

Therefore the onus is on you to prove it.

The onus is not on me to disprove it.

I think it likely you have some sort of grudge or distrust regarding authority figures, a political hostility towards the Tory party a febrile imagination and (forgive me) a credulous mindset. Add in access to the lurid corners internet and it's no surprise you've arrived at this conclusion.

southbankbornnbred 7:17 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Nurse and I were discussing this very issue recently.

The sad thing is, the CSA landscape in the UK is now a complete mess - some believing everything, some disbelieving everything and many serious allegations being challenged or investigated badly.

For every major expose of abuse, there has been much speculation or many untruths published too. The biggest losers from that are genuine victims of abuse.

SUM A DING WONG 7:13 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Nurse,

You're being pedantic now. You know what Im getting at. Its people who are very fucking high up in the food chain.

southbankbornnbred 7:11 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
I'm certainly prepared to believe that there is more to come out in relation to politicians and CSA.

But I also know for a fact that there was a lot of nonsense talked about it, too, especially on the Internet (surprise, surprise) where the David Icke mob seem to pop up regularly, and in certain newspapers.

Like I say, on these issues I get fed up with the speculation and the 'nudge-nudge, wink-wink' brigade. Give me the evidence, every day of the week. Or as far as I'm concerned it shouldn't be out there.

No offence, Sum: you seem to be seeking substantive info. But I hate the phrase 'no smoke without fire'. I've seen first hand how there can be - believe me.

SUM A DING WONG 7:11 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Nurse,

Lets not get into a he said, she said.

Of couse i cant prove what i said is true, as much as you cant disprove it.

But its food for thought. Probably not best discussed on here.

But, Nurse, watch John Wedger (thanks Southbank).

Nurse Ratched 7:08 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
W67

Statistics would suggest they do.

But the more excitable individuals among us are claiming it's a HIGH RANKING VIP RING working together as a club and there is a massive conspiracy to protect them.

Use your fucking loaf.

SUM A DING WONG 7:07 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
We vote these arseholes into power.

Westham67 7:06 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
*If

Westham67 7:05 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
I Catholic priests molest children I'm pretty sure some establishment type people do the same thing

southbankbornnbred 7:05 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
I think his name is John Wedger.

I've met him. I have no idea whether his allegations are true - and I won't repeat them. His core allegations had no overlap with what I was specifically looking into at the time, and I asked him to meet me again - but it never happened because his employment case was going through the Police Fed.

Nurse Ratched 7:04 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
How civilised that all these HIGH RANKING VIPs have formed a cosy club in which they are all known to each other and swap child victims between each other. I expect they pay their subs by direct debit and have a Christmas do and everything. No doubt some former chancellor of the exchequer is the club treasurer.

SUM A DING WONG 7:03 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
I cant prove its gospel, but there is no smoke without fire.

SUM A DING WONG 7:02 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Listen to pwoper, not me.

SUM A DING WONG 7:01 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Exactly, Pwoper.

And, all parties were involved mainly, Tory, but all parties involved.

AnotherDay_SameShit 7:01 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Well said, Nurse.

To come out with unfounded nonsense like that is beyond belief, how the fuck does this site not get shut down?

Nurse Ratched 7:00 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Logic.

Nurse Ratched 7:00 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
If he had any credible evidence it would have been acted upon. Policemen can be cranks, too.

SUM A DING WONG 7:00 Sat Jan 26
Re: The Jamie Bulger case
Why are you so quick to deny it, Nurse?

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